Bersih 2.0 – Demands worth to rally for?
The demands are sound. The question is, are they worth to rally for? No. EC has responded to some this demand. Especially the ink. They are opting for biometric.But no, it’s not good enough for Bersih. Some demands like stamping out corruption is out of EC jurisdiction. That is what the MACC for.
Najibnaili:
Assalamualaikum WBT, thanks for dropping by.
I respect your opinion with regards to the relevance of having a rally instead of other ‘peaceful’ methods which I assume is the parliament (very unlikely to happen soon as EC is not under the parliament) and others. First, it’s good that we both agree on the demands.
Secondly, I couldn’t agree more with the biometric system as the way forward, there’s no questioning about it though I have doubts as to how it can be applied properly in rural areas especially in sabah sarawak. rather optimistic but well it has to start somewhere.
Coming back to the rally, in my opinion, the rally is more than just people assembling and sending the memo to the agong and causing traffic jam. it’s actually a way that people show their seriousness in demanding for a clean and fair election. i remember in muara tuang, how the bn candidate’s form which were incomplete i.e. no financial report (which is a requirement btw) was accepted by EC. Not fair. How in another area in sarawak a recalculation appeal from PKR was ignored though the law permits EC to do so. not fair again. 10 days of campaign in the Sarawak election wasn’t sufficient especially when BN decides to i help you you help me. Biased statements by the ec timbalan pengarah etc etc.
Thus, a peaceful rally will do the trick in pinching the EC as to play their role properly (EC will definitely be more cautious after this). And the BN to fight fair and square. sindir anak pukul menantu. this can clearly be comprehended when PR is supporting Bersih so strongly . duh…
It obviously had worked as BN were so intimidated (in which they shouldn’t in the first place) by the rally, that they started to use whatever means to degrade the effort. keh keh keh
And to my surprise, after following #bersihstories on twitter, people regardless of race were so united in helping each other to ensure the rally was a success and a peaceful one. This is definitely a very memorable and meaningful sight for those participating and for people like us following from afar.
http://www.merdekareview.com/bm/news.php?n=12075
Then came the police who were only doing their job making the rally looked riotous. obviously not their fault entirely, they were just doing their job. and seriously, RM20+ per head for food? PDRM obviously knows politics as well.
Of course, bersih wasn’t perfect; the intervention of political entities did tarnish the ‘cleanliness’ of Bersih, again mere opinion. Though I think PR supporting Ambiga leading the cause was actually quite a cheeky move considering her influence in the UN.
Well I’m glad that the rally is over and the great message was sent to everyone all around the globe. i do agree with you in a sense, but in a bigger picture, taking media manipulations, dirty tricks by BN into account (many), i still believe Bersih was really worth the huge effort. but i totally respect your view. wallahua’lam.
Sorry for the long comment, it’s been a while since we write stuff on the blog. :)
hi. My take on the matter (a part of it) http://nana-eddy.blogspot.com/2011/07/bersih-if-only-you-are-really-clean.html and http://nana-eddy.blogspot.com/2011/07/yellow-is-new-controversy-color.html Take note that I am not quite on either side. Although I do support the cause, there’s just too much of “something else”.
On the Ambiga note, She was a brilliant person no doubt, but her demands through IFC in Lina Joy’s case are still ringing quite clearly in my head. I don’t mind who the next ruler might be, I don’t care if Bumis and Malays privilege is taken away because I know we’ll get by somehow. but I do care that she tried to mold/change our religion to her liking – in the name of democracy or human rights or whatever. I do care that she find our religion as something she can play with – that I do take offense.
I just hope that whoever future government is for Malaysia, is someone who understand Islam and respect it. Yes, it might sound tedious, but try to remember that the majority of Malaysians are Muslims. We can’t really take abuse to our religion too much. I’m sorry to say that Ambiga’s demands back then gives an impression that we can’t trust her, and so it speaks to the rest of her supporters.
That aside. I love the fact that Malaysians do not discriminate against race. We do and can get together. I read all those first hand stories by my blogger friends who were there and I smiled. I’m glad that the rally at least left something for us to smile about
Thanks Nana Eddy on the thought. With regards to Ambiga, I appreciate what ustaz nik abduh’s explanation on her leadership.
http://nikabduh.wordpress.com/2011/07/08/bersih-2-0-mengapa-ambiga/
With regards to IFC, if I were to put it in another view, It’s like us Muslims demanding for a syaria law to be implemented in the UK and the church of England will find it insulting for us to do so. yet it is our right and they’ll use whatever means they have to deny this demand.
Similarly, as a non muslim herself, Ambiga had the right to ask for the IFC demands. On the other hand, as Muslims ourselves, we by all means should deny these demands and show that the Islamic Syaria is the way to go in Malaysia and Ambiga had no power to change that.
but then comes the question, is Malaysia really an Islamic State and are we implementing the Islamic Law as our federal constitution. It is insensible that we’re not taking Islamic law seriously ourselves and we’re condemning others who have no clear understanding on the law demanding for their rights.
In Al-Maidah, 44, 45, 47, Allah mentioned that whoever does not judge based on what Allah has revealed, they are the disbelievers, wrongdoers, defiantly disobedient. Nauzubillahiminzalik.
Not until we establish an Islamic state based on the Holy Quran and Sunnahs, people like Ambiga will always emerge in the future and put forward dodgy demands.
But again, it’s worth mentioning, that Naili and I condemned the IFC demands and murtad cases like Lina Joy’s, Fatimah Tan’s and even Natrah’s years and years ago. What is right is right, and what is wrong will always be wrong. wallahua’lam.
Thanks for visiting us and sharing your views Nana =)